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| Dream, Memory, and Blood (Olkhon Island | Baikal Lake, Siberia) |
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Posted by: Thalia - 12-20-2021, 04:18 PM - Forum: Rest of the world
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[[Continued from Wanderlust]]
On the journey to the shoreline, Thalia asked Tristan about his life in Iceland. She had been to Reykjavik before, but only on a tourist excursion with her sister (a birthday present), and that many years ago now. She remembered the beauty, though. She spoke a little about her own home in Moscow, her work, and her sister. Asked Sierra where she was from, and inquired if the dog-not-dogs had names. She never pressed deeply for answers if they were reluctantly given, but was curious about both of their lives, and soaked in every detail they chose to give willingly. In the lulls she meandered tales of the island’s history and folklore (especially pertaining to the lake and rock), and spoke with the genuine awe and enthusiasm of someone charmed by life’s mysteries; who was naturally inquisitive about, well, everything. And sometimes she was quiet, too, distracted by the scenery and the beribboned totems that dotted the path. For all that she was happy to fill the silences, they didn’t seem to bother her either.
She paused briefly once the broad, bright surface of the lake first came into view beyond the trees, much as she had done her first day here. Then she followed the incline down to the shingled beach. A few tourists milled, but it was early and peaceful still. Thalia let the others choose a sheltered spot before she dropped her bag from her shoulder. Perhaps it was just that the sun was barely up, but it was not as warm as yesterday, the wind biting a little bitter as she wiggled out of her borrowed garments. She envied the dog-not-dogs their thick pelts of fur. Her swimming costume beneath was still a little damp, though she had rung it out in the cabin, and it felt not exactly pleasant now the cold took nibbles from exposed skin. She folded Sierra’s clothes more carefully than she would have her own, and placed them with her things. Though she had left most of her belongings at her homestay in the village, everything important was in that bag; her wallet and money, her pens and sketches, and the pinecone in its burn box.
“Will you wait here or return to the cabin?” she asked Sierra. She was not quite sure if the woman actually disliked her, and it made her deeply uncomfortable as a possibility; especially as, whatever the other woman’s true feelings might be, she still made the effort to be kind. Thalia was warm in return, and perhaps a little more obviously so in fear of that rejection. She sat with her for a moment longer, staring out at the water, her hand snaking up over her shoulder where the first poppies bloomed a large design down her back. The voluptuous figure inked amongst the flowers there was an exorcism at the time, but it had been a beginning not an end. Not for the first time she wondered where Yana was now, or if it was just the point at which she’d left reality and never returned.
“There are more drawings of the Tuuru creature in my sketchbook,” she said eventually. “You are welcome to look, if you wanted. Maybe you will understand more of it than I did.”
After that she stood, and waited for Tristan to lead them on.
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Posted by: Natalie Grey - 12-18-2021, 04:31 PM - Forum: Greater Moscow
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[[continued from Da Capo]]
A hint of laughter. “Don’t forget: you followed me.”
Natalie claimed to hate the game and play only by her own rules, but she still played. Adrian claimed patience. Not a man for undue risk or rashness. That was useful to know, but not necessarily what she had been looking for. She could not sway him with the recklessness of her cause, nor entice him with insinuations of power (and nor would she have been content with the latter; this wasn’t about power). Desire was easy to manipulate; everyone had a price they paid willingly for the things they most wanted – Natalie included, of course. Moving people into advantageous places was helpful, and often it was easy, but it was also a soul-destroying sort of tiring. She’d treated Evelyn like a piece on a gameboard, but what she’d truly wanted at the time was an ally.
Time forged that, and little else. But the foundations had to be laid somehow. He didn’t salivate at the thought of Brandon’s praise, or wasn’t willing to admit to it anyway. Since it was hardly a question she could ask outright, that would have to be enough.
“You’re right, I do.” She shrugged, and ignored the apology offered. She didn’t ever speak of her father, and she wasn’t about to start with a stranger. Even Jay didn’t know the half of it, and she was uncomfortable enough with what even he had seen of that particular demon. Adrian wasn’t actually asking though; or, at least, she did not think he truly cared for gossip half a decade old. Natalie’s expression had retreated into habitual stillness, second-nature reflex by now whenever it came up, but otherwise she might have smiled slyly at the tactic. She was too jaded to consider the chivalry truthful, even if it was.
“Some wrongs can’t be forgiven,” she agreed. Natalie’s was an enduring loyalty, more enduring than was probably good for her, but when betrayal severed those ties, they were severed forever. Her reply held a note of that truth, in warning or acknowledgement. She didn’t know what caused him to turn away from his family, after all, and she would not ask now, though she did drop her gaze to the ring for half a moment. He was seeking commonality not sharing secrets. “Perhaps we have something in common after all.”
By now darkness had plunged outside the car, the lights of civilisation dotted fewer. A rougher road began to grind under the car’s wheels, until it finally pulled to a stop. Little could be seen out of the windows anymore, just the reflection of their own faces.
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| WOT on Prime Episode 7 - SPOILERS |
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Posted by: Ascendancy - 12-17-2021, 03:16 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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Episode 7 spoilers
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I just finished the episode and am still processing everything.
Overall: my favorite episode of the season so far.
I had my first moment of actual disappointment - bonus points to anyone who guesses the 1 thing that really bothered me for the first time this entire show. I bet nobody guesses it.
But even that 1 thing isn't enough to dislodge episode 7 as my favorite so far.
I had to rewind and rewatch a couple of things as soon as it was over b/c I just couldn't process what I'd seen quick enough.
All I can say is I have this emotion in me that is this split of I can't believe I'm watching what I'm watching and I just want to stand up and scream with excitement.
I'll write in depth review and thoughts tomorrow. Maybe I'll be able to process by then.
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| Talk of Treason |
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Posted by: Kemala - 12-12-2021, 04:41 PM - Forum: Past Lives
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Tar Valon,
The White Tower,
The Red Ajah
Kekura Sedai
The Third Age
A stack of neatly sorted papers were arranged on Kekura’s desk. As she picked up the last one, transcribed the contents of its meaning, and devoured the information hidden within, her already grim mood hardened to angry stone. It was a pleasure to weave fire upon the messages, though she wished she could incinerate the entire Tower along with it. She left her desk in a hurry, without seeming to hurry at all, but there was an urgency in her gaze that warned others away who may otherwise be brave enough to approach.
Kekura bypassed Modane’s door with barely a glance. Her sister Modane was an embarrassment. Yes, Reds bonded a male channeler to them these days, and Kekura approved of the act as a way to keep control over their growing influence in the world, but Modane’s frivolous relationship with one, her dogged allegiance to the Blues, and her adoration of the Amyrlin meant that Modane would need addressed.
She entered the private quarters of their third Sitter, Haneyth. The woman was well-respected but known for her stern hand. If Kekura had not been Mistress of Novices during the years of her service, Haneyth would have made a superb replacement, but like Kekura, it would have been a waste of talent. Or perhaps just like Kekura, would have been a penance to suppress talent.
“The time has come, Sister,” Kekura said. Haneyth gestured that they sit together even as the Red warded her own room from eavesdropping. Their topic of conversation was so delicate, not even another Red could overhear.
Kekura sat, but barely saw the weaves. She’d never been so angry in her life, which was saying something.
“Kaydrienne’s support is waning,” she started, “And with her recent endorsement of this horrific deal between Arad Doman and the Seanchan, we cannot let her continue to lead the Tower,” she said.
Haneyth’s lips were a thin line. “There are strong Sisters who still remain loyal to the Amyrlin. Few as they are, they’ll need addressed before we can take any action,” she said.
The faces Haneyth mention floated like haunts before Kekura’s imagination. “Modane will yield to the will of the Ajah or will be expelled from all of her positions. I’ll see to that,” she said. As head of the Ajah, the Sitters were appointed by her alone, and losing her seat in the hall would be the least of her worries if she dared defy Kekura outright.
“And what of our Green sisters, Juleen and Lythia?” Haneyth asked.
“Juleen isn’t a Sitter and is lost somewhere in the borderlands anyway. Lythia, however…” Kekura’s voice trailed into thought. She came to Tar Valon within a week of Lythia. They were novices together, but Kekura was raised to the Shawl a year faster. Lythia always resented it ever since, no matter how annoyingly friendly she pretended to be. The only reason the Greens and Reds came to a truce over rogue Asha’man was their mutual desire to see danger contained. Lennox, Kentrillo and others were the catalyst to healing the rift, but it was Lythia and Kekura working together who sewed the seams of their animosity.
“Lythia has been less enamored with the Amyrlin Seat since her return to the Tower than she once was. Perhaps we can convert her position. But Rikela is a challenge,” Kekura said. The Blue was a dreamwalker and probably head of their Ajah’s eyes and ears. She would know what was happening in the Hall almost as soon as it started. “We need to know exactly where she is and contain her. If she interrupts the proceeding, it will be difficult to proceed. Find out where she is and make sure she stays there.”
Which left one strong ally of the Amyrlin. Who would have thought the Bloody Browns would be the ones to hold up the foundations of the Amyrlin Seat? Fate would be a force of nature, but even their strongest Sister would not be able to withstand the might of the whole of the Hall if unified against her for fear of the same conspiracy.
Haneyth spoke to as much, “The two Brown Sitters will look to Fate to decide their vote unless we can convince the Hall that doing so is a danger to their position. This treaty with the Seanchan by her brother,” she said.
Kekura's teeth grinding to contain herself from lashing out. “If Fate does not denounce him, her destiny will be entangled with his and Kaydrienne’s.”
Haneyth slipped a piece of paper to Kekura. Her attention diverted; she studied the symbol. It was their mark for an Asha’man.
“Dareyn is in the Tower?” she asked, bewildered by the luck.
Haneyth shook her head. “Not him, Sister. The Wheel has brought us another Asha’man, who may be the key to deposing the Amyrlin Seat.”
Kekura’s brows rose. “Who is it?”
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| Anne Rice remembrance |
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Posted by: Ascendancy - 12-12-2021, 02:23 PM - Forum: General Discussion
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One of my favorite authors passed away. Anne Rice's works and imagination were pivotal to my coming of age. I devoured all her works during a very difficult time in my life. Seeing her characters deal with darkness in themselves and in their world strongly influenced my ability to deal with the same during the formative years of my life.
Thank you to Anne for her wonderful worlds, mythos, world-building and countless hours of entertainment.
If you were a fan, please share your memories and maybe some of your favorite books or stories.
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| WoT on Prime episode 6 SPOILERS |
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Posted by: Thalia - 12-10-2021, 11:34 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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SPOILERS for episode 6
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Huh. Interesting. I’m not actually sure what I think. It’s definitely one that will need a rewatch.
That ending though.
I loved the cold intro and Moiraine and Suian’s relationship. I figured the portrait in Moiraine’s room was going to be something to do with communicating with Suian, but the actual implementation seemed strange, because it felt like they both met in a fishing hut in Tear. Like, what? Since when can ter’angreal do that? Was it supposed to be TAR?
I’m gonna go ahead and assume that Ishy is sending Suian false dreams (or maybe one of the others, I’m not convinced he’s the only one able to touch the world right now). My prediction is that they will tie in whatever happens at the Eye with the obvious release of the Forsaken. Not really sure why they think the DO’s prison is there, unless it’s a result of misinformation (or they changed it I suppose).
Loved the obvious difference between the face Suian presents as the Amyrlin and the clothes she chooses to wear in her study.
If the Waygate is opened by a channeler, how did the trollocs get through?
Also found it curious that Moiraine said she didn’t know Nynaeve was a channeler prior to the healing, but still recognised the potential in Egwene.
I don’t think Mat is clear of the dagger influence. Did we actually see what happened to it? All I remember is that Lan covered it up. I suspect from the “he’ll get corrupted if he touches it again'' comment that what she did may be more akin to the reprieve of the books. Which explains why he stayed behind.
Logain’s performance was stand-out. Poor Loial felt underutilised though.
Who is Liandrin meeting up with in the city? I think she’s getting her information on the E5 from Fain.
I guess the flashbacks are going to come as a result of the characters all getting the chance to share stories (from Moiraine’s line of dialogue as they left)? The reunion was quite sweet but the exposition a little clunky. I wonder if the Ways themselves might prove to be a much more horror-esque sequence. Although Machin Shin was different to Mashadar, they run the risk of feeling very same-y as a threat.
I dunno. I have no idea how they’re going to pull all this together at this point.
It was nice to see Moiraine’s Eyes and Ears network in play, and it had some great bits to it, but I’m not sure if an episode entirely from her POV right now comes at the expense of the E5, especially after the last episode (happy to wait and see how the final two episodes roll out though). I think it might be one I enjoy watching more when the whole season is done. From the perspective of someone who hasn’t read the books, I think it was important for plot purposes.
Either the hour slot isn’t long enough, or there only being 8 episodes has just compressed things too much. I mostly like the direction they take, it’s not that, but I don’t feel like we’re getting everything we should.
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| WoT on Prime episode 5 SPOILERS |
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Posted by: Thalia - 12-03-2021, 11:21 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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SPOILERS for episode 5
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What did you all think?
Thoughts on Loial?
Did we see background portal stones? Or were they more like roadmarkers to Tar Valon?
Wow, okay. I found this episode very emotional, it has a very strong focus on themes of love, loss, and grief. I thought it had a lot of strong and nuanced character building. And lots of foreshadowing, worldbuilding, and setup.
First impressions:
Nynaeve holding onto her braid in the opening sequence got me right in the feels.
Maksim kept Kerene’s boots *cries*
Love the tiny detail of longer hair after a time jump.
Rand noticing Dragonmount!
Finally, some book swearing!
Padan Fain’s whistling when the boys first arrive was a nice touch. In fact you can see him in a doorway watching as they enter the inn (I only noticed the latter because of a fortuitous pause lol). You see him once again after that, laughing. Whatever Mordeth did he looks far better for it than poor ol’ Mat.
Odd they cut Gill after mentioning he’s Thom’s friend. Maybe we see him next episode, he has been cast. There were a few times during this ep where it again felt like there should have been a little more that would have made the transition between scenes smoother, but it had to be cut to fit in the 1hr time slot.
I liked that Mat wondered about the little girl, that even though he’s now clearly deep in the dagger’s grip, he still has his good heart. By the way, the extras description for the Grinwells on the official prime page DOES say that it was the fade who killed the family. I am glad to be wrong.
Aram’s comment about accepting that violence is a part of everyone was a bit strange, it felt less like a tinker philosophy and more like a poignant thing to point out to Perrin. Mind you, it always seemed dumb to me that in the books they’re vegetarian since they’re also nomadic. Violence and hunting are separate things, that’s the whole reason Aiel use the spear. I will be surprised if the show tinkers shun those who stray, they seem too forgiving. I did love their defiance to the Whitecloaks, and that we saw pacifism doesn’t mean being *passive*. I really like Ila.
Interesting that Moiraine makes a point of also warning Nynaeve specifically about the sisters they travelled with -- does she suspect Liandrin? Or was it just common sense? Because as she also points out, Nynaeve is now going to be considered a game piece all the AS will want to move.
The scene with Maksim and the other warders was beautiful. I like seeing the warders as a brotherhood and how they rallied around a grieving brother. Melting the ring was a nice touch. Maksim’s grief really resonated with me, and the way his loss affected the others was very well done. Maksim’s later explanation for why he cannot sleep, and Nynaeve’s reply, were spot on.
Jumping from something beautiful, poignant, and sad, to Egwene & and the Whitecloaks made it even more difficult to watch. The added detail of the way they take out her braid and the rough treatment of her hair was a nice touch.
Goldeneyes! I was really ready for the wolves to turn up at this point 
I’m going to go ahead and assume that they haven’t just adjusted Valda’s position in the Children but merged him with Asunawa. I don’t think he even particularly thought Egwene was a channeler, considering he left them alone for so long. It just seemed like he had a reasonable excuse for some torture time and took it.
I continue to like Liandrin despite myself, they are doing a very good job of making her relatable. Her trying to be nice to Nynaeve seemed so manufactured I can only credit the actress for her performance. Is there a reason she sent Nyn to the gardens? It’s clearly where she met Loial and was able to reunite with the boys. Is this just Liandrin trying to win trust? Did Padan Fain instruct her? At this point Moiriane still seems totally ignorant that Mat and Rand are in Tar Valon, which seemed a little odd given what she said to Nyn.
Thought it was a bit odd we didn’t SEE Nyn go to the gardens. The skip from her standing in the corridor outside the Hall to reuniting with the boys was jarring. Loial’s roundabout introduction was spot on though.
Oh, also liked that they included the story about Egwene’s breakbone fever and Nynaeve’s certainty that Egwene is still alive. The AS are totally wrong about the cave being the first time Nyn channeled but I liked that this wasn’t made explicit. I also liked that when Mat was surprised to see her, she replied “who else would I be?” After Moiraine’s speech I loved this display of Nynaeve’s strength and pure stubbornness to not let power change her. She is my favourite character at the moment.
Eg stealing the AS rings! Does the girls using these (presumably) to pose as AS later have a different feel to it now we know dead AS rings are melted down as a mark of respect to their passing? We really see Egwene’s beginnings as a leader here. Also, her comment that Perrin might spend his entire life before he accepts Laila was an accident gives me faith they will handle that storyline well, and not just gloss over it.
Liandrin and Moiraine have a past? That would be an interesting twist (Liandrin’s prime description does suggest they were intimate once). It’s starting to seem like Moiriane was a bit of a lady killer in her youth.
Also, the novice dresses are far more stylish than I ever envisioned them.
Forsaken! One of the figurines looked like a squat chewbacca, I’ll bet that was Sammael lol. Did anyone count them?
Ah, so Alanna was planning to offer a bond to Stepin, I’m glad they included this (I wonder if they will merge her character with Myrelle for future plotlines). Discussion of consent now will contrast with what she does later in grief. The way they chatted on the bed was very reminiscent of how they must have been as novices, which I thought was a nice touch. Also loved the “you’ll be around for a long time yet” line. Yikes. Good setup for the Tower split too, though interesting that it’s Liandrin they’re rallying around. The picture in the wall cabinet was interesting, I didn’t know what to make of it though (beyond it being a little heavy on the symbolism).
The Amyrlin travelling back from Caemlyn was an amusing touch. I wonder if that has anything to do with Elayne.
Agh, Stepin slipped Lan the sleeping tea! I wasn’t sure how I felt about his suicide by something like seppaku rather than him trying to take out Logain, though I thought it worked better for the tone fo the episode. What was the symbol on the blade hilt? It felt like the camera focused there, but maybe it was just so we could see he’d killed himself. It reminded me of one of the chapter symbols from the books.
I thought the funeral, and Lan being a conduit for grief no one else could express, was excellent and very moving.
The only negative I had, aside from scenes sometimes feeling a bit choppy again, was the sets. They still felt too much like sets imo (though they were very beautiful). Tar Valon’s background noise just felt like stock sound. The White Tower felt FAR too empty. I know it was a huge place for not many people, but it just felt abandoned. Aside from our main characters, we literally saw two novices wandering about and that’s it. The rooms all felt cavernous and a little empty too. They make a joke about Moiriane’s, but even Stepin’s felt sparse. I would have expected more wallhangings and tapestry at the very least. It looked like it would be cold!
EDIT, oh and I almost forgot, the ending credits music also got me in the feels. It was a sombre version of Mashiara, specifically the bit that speaks about love.
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| WoT on Prime Episode 4 SPOILERS |
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Posted by: Ascendancy - 11-26-2021, 02:23 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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Spoiler alert for Episode 4: The Dragon Reborn
Stop reading if you want to avoid spoilers.
I had a feeling it would drop at midnight GMT, so I was refreshing my browser at my local time and elated to find episode 4 popped up within minutes. After a few quick text messages, I hurried to the tv, lowered the lights and settled in to be amazed.
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Perrin continues his habit of being my least favorite character. I'm eager to get him some wolf scenes so he can be interesting again. Nothing else to say. Aram was very charming in this episode. I love his accent that creeps up sometimes. At the scene with him dancing with Egwene and them staring up into the stars, he was a little creepy, like he'd not seen a pretty girl before. And the scene with them looking up at the stars was not a flattering angle for Egwene. Anyone else notice that? She looked about 12 years old too.
Mat's descent into darkness is shown pretty cool. I like that it seems the darkness of Shadar Logoth has infected him in the literal sense. Made for some super creepy vibes coming off Mat. Him staring up into the loft shadows, and we see blood and death everywhere, for a minute my heart jumped into my throat because I was worried Mat had killed the family. But luckily, it was just the Fade. HOLY CRAP that Fade was incredible. I want more Fade fighting scenes. I haven't re-watched it yet, but my memory of that scene was first, it went too fast, second, that Fade was huge, third, its robes were wicked cool, and fourth, Thom held its own against it for a short period of time which was YAY BOOK ACCURATE.
Anyone else notice the doll was named Birgitte?? I'd totally forgotten about her. Guess that means there is a plan for her in later seasons. Foreshadowing!
I really like that the show is making the watcher guess who is the Dragon Reborn. Thom thinking Mat can channel. The story of Owen *cries*. Now Rand thinks Mat might be it is all disarming to the watcher. Good misdirection there, Rafe.
Now to the main event.
HOLY SHIT THE AES SEDAI CAMP. The politicking. The conversations between Korrine and Stepin: like something more than husband and wife or brother and sister. The AS/Warder bond was really shown here. When he felt her die and he almost fell over, it was so moving. She was clearly the one in charge of the camp, even though it was made up of different Ajahs, she was the strongest and in charge. I loved that.
The campfire scene showing the dynamics of all the warders was amazing. It was like watching the last 20 years of my RP life play out on screen. November down to the month of 2021 is my 20th anniversary of WoT RP'ing. *cries again* And the two warders + the Green. Nicely done.
Liandrin is great. I hated her in the books. Not in the way that you like to hate a character, but I really hated her. I am really liking her on the show. She's witty, and I think that is making the difference. Her hating on the perfect, selfless Moiraine was awesome and spot-on Red/Blue hate.
Finally. Logain.
He was really good. The opening scene in Ghealdan was pretty cool. I really loved the personification of his madness and his interpretation of what the voices meant. Moiraine's explanation that the Wheel doesn't care was such an Aes Sedai thing to say. Loved that interaction between them. The shielding was incredible. So far, the channeling is wonderful in the show. I am a huge fan of the way they show it. The shield as the net pressing in on him, containing his threads within a sort of bubble was such a cool way to show it. I never had a good picture in my head of what that should look like. I liked how they did it. Was the cage an actual cage or not? I thought it was a manifestation of the shield, but when he broke free of it, it melted like he dissolved the shield. But then when the Aes Sedai re-shielded him, the cage didn't reappear. So maybe it was a real cage after all. Or maybe it hadn't had time to reform. Not sure. Regardless, the battle was so cool.
And then there was the "radiant sun." FINALLY!! Finally Nynaeve is let loose. Her braids floating in the air. The scream of her rage. That was some freaking awesome scene. I immediately rewatched it as soon as the show was done just to see her in her glory and to know she's only at the beginning. I had flashes in my head of her and Rand cleansing Saidin and teared up. It was so cool. So. Friggin. Cool.
Okay that's all I can remember after my first watch. What caught your eye?
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| WOT on Prime- Episode 1-3- Spoil Away! |
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Posted by: Armande - 11-20-2021, 07:19 PM - Forum: General Discussion
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Here is a place to discuss the Wheel of Time on Prime, episodes 1-3. Full spoilers for those episodes ONLY! Book (and general WOT lore, companion, etc) spoilers allowed.
Any and all thoughts for episodes 1-3!
What did you love?
What did you hate?
What are you curious about?
Got any theories?
Where do you think things are going?
What changes did you really like?
What did you really dislike or wonder what the ramification are gonna be?
Anything is fair game!
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