03-24-2014, 09:23 AM
I'll wait for the reborn Aztec god(dess) to start since she probably already has some thoughts on that. But I love the idea about the conquistadors hunting down old relics of the god ages. My mind instantly flashed back being 12 years old and an old Nick cartoon called the 7 cities of gold back in the mid 80s. Doing something that tied all that together would be kind of cool. And throwing in a Eurasian connection is cool since I've always believed that the similarities in both societies are very striking.
I was reviewing the Popol Vuh and it seems to me that the hero twins Hunahpu and Xblanque and their defeat the Lords of Xibalba could be interpreted in a god-war fashion. Too, their struggle with their half-brothers Hunbatz and Huchouen. (As a side note, it is interesting that we have another culture with a hero-twin mythology. As I mentioned in my bio, hero-twins were part of the proto-indo-european tradition. And my memory tickles regarding a similar legend among the Navajo regarding 2 brothers that I am for some reason associating with Spider Woman. Interesting those elements.)
nice summary here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_Twins
Be interesting to get an overview of Aztec, Mayan and Inca myth, pull some common elements that seem like theyd work as god wars. Then do the same with a small sampling of Native American tribes, like the Navajo and maybe Iroquois or Sioux or Ute. Could put together an interesting set of elements.
I was talking to Jon Little Bird last night regarding the Atharim. I know Ascendency kept it mysterious on purpose for a few reasons, which I think was a good call. But look at how the AoL Aiel changed in 3000 years. We have disparate groups such as the Jenn, the Aiel we all know and love, the Tuathuan, the Amayar and even the hill tribes in Seanchan (Karede's body servant Ajumbura was one of them.) All of them descendants of the original Aiel and all but a couple of them doing anything remotely close to their original beliefs- keeping the way of the leaf or the water way. It makes me wonder at scattered Atharim across many continents and societies maintaining their sense of purpose and tradition across the previous age. And then it occurred to me that maybe it was only one or two groups who actually successfully did that (similar to the way the Amayar and Tuathuan kept a way of the leaf/water way) and that these were those that set the god-wars off. Then, either other Atharim descended groups, or even non-atharim, followed suit in their own areas. So that being Atharim, back then, wasn't necessarily a matter of descent but of taking up a cause. Spiritual kinship. Sort of like Anonymous of a few years ago. Those who rebelled took upon themselves the name Atharim after the originals. So let's say it was Atharim from Greece or something (which I sort of posited in my bio) that started things and others followed suit, though not physically Atharim. I don't know. Just something I was thinking about.
Edited by Connor Kent, Mar 24 2014, 01:03 PM.
I was reviewing the Popol Vuh and it seems to me that the hero twins Hunahpu and Xblanque and their defeat the Lords of Xibalba could be interpreted in a god-war fashion. Too, their struggle with their half-brothers Hunbatz and Huchouen. (As a side note, it is interesting that we have another culture with a hero-twin mythology. As I mentioned in my bio, hero-twins were part of the proto-indo-european tradition. And my memory tickles regarding a similar legend among the Navajo regarding 2 brothers that I am for some reason associating with Spider Woman. Interesting those elements.)
nice summary here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_Twins
Be interesting to get an overview of Aztec, Mayan and Inca myth, pull some common elements that seem like theyd work as god wars. Then do the same with a small sampling of Native American tribes, like the Navajo and maybe Iroquois or Sioux or Ute. Could put together an interesting set of elements.
I was talking to Jon Little Bird last night regarding the Atharim. I know Ascendency kept it mysterious on purpose for a few reasons, which I think was a good call. But look at how the AoL Aiel changed in 3000 years. We have disparate groups such as the Jenn, the Aiel we all know and love, the Tuathuan, the Amayar and even the hill tribes in Seanchan (Karede's body servant Ajumbura was one of them.) All of them descendants of the original Aiel and all but a couple of them doing anything remotely close to their original beliefs- keeping the way of the leaf or the water way. It makes me wonder at scattered Atharim across many continents and societies maintaining their sense of purpose and tradition across the previous age. And then it occurred to me that maybe it was only one or two groups who actually successfully did that (similar to the way the Amayar and Tuathuan kept a way of the leaf/water way) and that these were those that set the god-wars off. Then, either other Atharim descended groups, or even non-atharim, followed suit in their own areas. So that being Atharim, back then, wasn't necessarily a matter of descent but of taking up a cause. Spiritual kinship. Sort of like Anonymous of a few years ago. Those who rebelled took upon themselves the name Atharim after the originals. So let's say it was Atharim from Greece or something (which I sort of posited in my bio) that started things and others followed suit, though not physically Atharim. I don't know. Just something I was thinking about.
Edited by Connor Kent, Mar 24 2014, 01:03 PM.